"I'll be sitting in the same seat by 2027," Starmer stated, adding that if the conversation proceeded smoothly, he might invite the interviewer into Downing Street for another talk in the coming year.
For a PM, there's never truly break for those in the top job. Shortly before we sat down, the PM had been in calls with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and working to understand precisely had occurred in Venezuela, where his key political chum, US President Donald Trump, had just targeted and seized its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
Once our lengthy talk, which was considerably lengthier than usual, had finished, Maduro had been indicted in New York.
As the year commences, the Prime Minister seems to have had a degree of a revitalisation. Perhaps even just a bit of relaxation with his family at Chequers, the prime minister's country retreat.
This appeared to have left him in a more positive mood than at the difficult conclusion of 2025, a terrible annus horribilis for him.
Yet, are he and his supporters kidding themselves if they reckon his fortunes are about to get better?
The uncomfortable truth for the leader is that many of his fellow MPs think he's not very good at his job. Some of them would rather take a risk and remove him this year.
But Starmer was dismissing such talk in the interview on Saturday morning.
Multiple times he insisted he'd be "assessed at the next election", maintaining nobody would take his five-year mandate from him – even if the best chance of preventing Nigel Farage and Reform UK entering No 10 may be for Labour to switch leader.
"We are in the struggle of our generation and I aim to be at the forefront," he said.
The challenge for the prime minister is that he will be judged long before then – in a major set of elections in May across the UK. He sought to protest, perhaps too much, that they are about who runs local authorities, and who runs the governments in Holyrood or Cardiff – and not about Westminster.
True – in part. But although he may be reluctant to concede it, No 10 will be evaluated by those elections too.
Despite this, Sir Keir suggesting that there were no circumstances under which he would resign, should a his colleagues challenged him for the job, should those elections prove very poor for Labour.
He attempted to explain his unpopularity by saying the voters was reasonably anxious for things to change. He tried to assure me, and the public, that 2026 would be different.
The economic situation would improve despite rising unemployment, he said, when policies the government implemented during their initial rocky year began to bear fruit.
His core point is that in 2026 the country will "turn the corner".
The PM may have spoken with renewed vitality than I've seen from him for a some time – less tense, perhaps, with more time to talk.
But despite facing demands from within his own party for a more decisive strategy, with greater political clarity, more dynamism, more pace and more immediacy, his explanations were familiar ones.
Given that he is in this much political trouble, does he need a different script?
No government, and certainly not one that has been struggling in the polls for an extended period, gets everything its as planned.
The Prime Minister's challenges are not just because governing is challenging, but because he and his colleagues have erred, even in the recent past.
The prime minister admitted that he regretted saying he was "pleased" to welcome back the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK following an outcry when past remarks he'd previously made – including calls for Zionists and police to be killed – came to light.
Starmer blamed "the system" for not catching what the activist had said before – a more diplomatic way of saying it wasn't his responsibility.
And he is inviting obvious political dangers as the year progresses. His alliance with the US president acquires a new risk after Trump's military action on Venezuela.
Based on years of interviewing Sir Keir Starmer, a former human rights lawyer who was against the war in Iraq, over his career, the notion he would be comfortable with these events seems unlikely.
He asserted he was a "lifelong champion of international law" but we "just haven't got the complete details at the moment".
Critics called for him to criticise the action prior to we spoke. And the administration is expected to face further scrutiny to give an explicit view in Parliament in the next few days.
And there has long been bubbling pressure in the Labour ranks to undo or remake some of the results of Brexit.
Sir Keir rejects he's heading in that direction, but his new firmer plan to align more closely with the European trading bloc – the giant economic European market – will likely provoke accusations that he is going back on his promise never to try to reverse the decisions that followed Brexit.
A move to align with more of the single market will please a faction on his side of the party, but it is simple material for Reform and the Conservatives to
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